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EBM presents Toronto/Canada's first EBM-Wave festival....EBMfest Thursday December 13th at The Reverb, 651 Queen St. W. Toronto, Canada. Featuring Canada's own Decoded Feedback with special guests direct from Mexico Hocico (exclusive first time performance), Weave (kitchener) and Delica. Also featuring guest DJs: DJ Antithesis, EBM (CIUT). This is an all ages event, and doors open at 8:00pm. Wrist band/19+ ID for bar. Tickets: $16.00CAD/$13.00USD advance and $20.00CAD/$16.00USD door. Tickets available now at Penguin Music (416)597-1687,Siren (416) 504-9288 and Encore Records (Kitchener) (519) 744-1370. To order/reserve online email ebm@ciut.fm (for out of town only). http://ebmfest.toronto-goth.com

Toronto-Goth recently had a chance to chat with Marco Biagiotti & Yone Dudas of Decoded Feedback. You can download the interview (mp3 format, 7 Mb) or read the transcript below. Be sure to catch the show on Thursday !

TG: Toronto-Goth
M: Marco Biagiotti decodedfeedback.com
Y: Yone Dudas


TG: I thought we could start out by talking about how Decoded Feedback got together.

Y: We were both living in Italy and we were going out to clubs a lot, just having a great time. There was this really cool EBM industrial club, and we were hanging around people who made music, and we’re saying, you know this would be really cool to make it ourself, just to try it.and it seemed liked such a neat thing to do, to try to make this music yourself.

M: At that time the scene in Italy was really really good. This club called Express had great shows, we saw Die Form, Noise Assembly. A lot of bands from Europe played there. So that’s what inspired us to try to do our own stuff with music.

TG: When was that?

M: 1992?

Y: 1993 I think about.

TG: What was your first release?

M: First album was Overdosing. It was basically a collection of some demo tapes and we put together this album called Overdosing. Actually we are about to re-release the album because a lot of people ask for that album; it’s not available anymore. We are about to re-release it with Bloodline, including maybe some new tracks, some remixes in it. It will probably be in the new year; Feburary, somewhere around that time.

TG: What’s the significance of the name?

M: It was more related to an overdose of information, an overdose of feelings. I picked the name …

Y: That’s what I was going to say, you’ll have to answer that J

M: Overdose of information. A lot of stuff was going on in my life in the time. An overdose of things in my head basically.

TG: What do each of you do in the band?

Y: Basically we do share a lot of things. I do a lot of strings, I love doing melodies a lot. I do a lot of basses, drums. I’ve even started getting into a little bit of sampling, and have been getting into writing lyrics. We do share a lot of the stuff together, except for Marco does most of the sampling (99%).

M: Most of the sampling, drums, basses, and lyrics. I’m the singer as well.

Y: We do the arranging together. One person sometimes starts, the other one starts. It depends. Sometimes it starts from a sample that he’s done, and then I’ll start doing the base on that. It just goes like that.

TG: What equipment do you use?

M: We don’t say names of what we use. In fact, live too we cover the names of the keyboards we use.

TG: Why is that?

M: I don’t like the publicity to companies. And also, I like the fact that people are curious to know what we use. I like people to guess basically what we use. It’s pretty easy to guess if you know the instruments.

Y: Well, some of them. There’s one that’s a bit difficult.

TG: What is your writing process like?

Y: Basically again it just starts with, either like Marco does a sample and it starts from there.He does a lot of samples and he mixes 2 or 3 samples together, so we have a certain note that he might have to start with. Then you have to start from there and have to decide if notes can go around it. Sometimes it just starts for me playing strings. I’m just playing a couple chords.

M: The classical composing the piano. Sometimes just writing down lyrics and working from the lyrics. Just me practicing with the voice and building the song around that.

TG: What are you trying to say with your lyrics? Is there a message that you’re trying to get out there?

M: Not a specific message. A lot of the lyrics I write is about pain, what I feel in a certain situation, and what I feel also about the world. My personal life, and also my persona in the world, the way I feel about the world. Interaction between people. We don’t have really political issues that we deal in the lyrics.

TG: What makes Decoded Feedback unique compared to other bands?

M: Two different cultures together; a woman and a man together. Combining ideas together, and we like to use a lot of hard beating and hard basses combined with melody on top. A lot of bands do very hard music, or really melodic music. It’s difficult to combine these two things together, and make them work together very well. This is one of the unique things of Decoded Feedback.

Y: I think the samples that Marco does are one thing I really like. I recently said in another interview is the way that he combines some samples together, and I’ve been starting to get into it too. One of the best sampling merging together was Passion of Flesh. In the beginning there’s two different things we sampled and melded them together. Recently somebody complimented saying that we don’t just take typical samples, not just right from the movies. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Mixing all sorts of strange samples. We get them from all sorts of weird places. It’s nice, different in that way.

TG: What movies have you sampled?

Y: We don’t usually say where we get them. Aliens is one. I think that’s about it. I can’t remember other movies.

M: Again, it’s pretty interesting to hear what people have to say about that.

Y: We always say that if anybody can figure out the sample in Breathe, I swear I’ll pay them, let’s say $100. If I say that someone will figure it out. It’s impossible to figure out where that sample came from.

M: It’s not impossible.

Y: It’s almost impossible.

M: It’s a movie ..

Y: If anybody gets it, a free t-shirt and a free cd, how about that?

M: Ok.

TG: Do you guys like being in the studio or playing live? Which one do you like more?

Y: I like both. I love playing live. At first I was very nervous playing live; I didn’t like it. The very first years that we did it, the very first time, I was very nervous. But now I really, really enjoy it. You get to really see the reaction of what people think of your music. But again, I like the studio stuff too, but I find they compliment each other, because once you play live, then you get the inspiration to make more music and it’s a lot of fun.

M: The studio is more like a moment of reflection. A quiet moment that you work on the music and lyrics. The live is more like an andrenalin rush, it gives you a lot of excitement and make you go on.

TG: You’re playing this Thursday at EBMfest. Have you played with any of those bands before?

M: No. We know at least Hocico and we know the music of Hocico. We don’t know the other two bands. So it’ll be interesting to see them play.

TG: I’ve heard some sort of allegations that you don’t actually like playing in Toronto. Is there anything you want to say about that?

M: Yes. It’s not true.

Y: Totally not true.

M: We like to play in Toronto. The only problem is nobody ever offer us a good place to play. We want a good system, a good place to play and all people before they ask us to play in very small places, and with very bad systems and we prefer not to play in this. We prefer to play once in a while.

Y: But make it a really good concert. There were a couple concerts unfortunately that were cancelled, that were actually planned that were quite big. We were supposed to play with VNV Nation actually recently, but then Icon of Coil was put on the floor. But before that we were actually going to be the band. So many times that’s happened, and we’ve been billed with another band and we’re like cool and then all of a sudden they cancel, they don’t come to Canada, work permits problems. So it’s been a lot of that too, so it’s been really quite ironic that it’s happened so many times. Then we heard that somebody was going around Toronto saying that we’d snubbed Toronto and all this stuff, and they’d banned us from their playlists. And we’re thinking what is going on that people make these rumours and scandolous things. You don’t even know the story. We’ve been quite frustrated never getting a concert down in Toronto for a long time.

M: I think DJ’s, they should support more local bands. Because going out in clubs, I notice not a lot of people they support us. It’s a very big difference compared to Europe or the States. In the States we are always on all the playlists. And in Toronto: rarely. It should start from the DJ to support local bands. I think it’s very important. Unfortunately, that’s not really happening in Toronto. Hopefully this show will help that.

TG: Is there anything else you’d like to see changed in Toronto’s scene?

Y: I’d like to see more bands coming here. But unfortunately that’s due to a lot of the problems recently with the terrorist attacks. And it’s going to be much more difficult to get people to come into Canada. As it was before, very few people would come. So I would like that. I wish people would want to go out, and really request that these concerts come. Maybe people would, if people write to Metropolis Records, call them and say hey, get these people to come to Canada. It would be good to see if there were more concerts.

M: Also, one of the problems of Toronto people, they prefer more go club nights then attend to shows. I wish that people would go more to concerts. Even if it’s a small band, or you’ve never heard the name of the band, go to see it. Support the bands because that’s the music that is played in clubs. You have to support the bands. Even if you never heard the name of the band before, try to go see it, you might like it. Instead of just supporting only the big bands.

TG: You’ve played in Toronto once before?

Y: Twice with Covenant.

M: Lee’s Palace both times.

TG: What are your musical influences, or other bands that you like?

Y: For me, I love Leather Strip. That’s one of my very big influences. Skinny Puppy, Frontline Assembly, Mentallo and the Fixer, Clock DVA. I like a lot of things but Leather Strip is one of my favourites just because it’s very aggressive, but at that same time has melody. That’s what I really like.

M: For me, it really changes. My inspirations, my preferences really change, year by year, album by album. I listen to very different music every year and every month. There are a lot of band sthat I liked in the past that I still like. But I really try to listen to new bands, get elements from new bands, fresh new elements from new bands. My favourites from the past are definitely Skinny Puppy, Project Pitchfork, Frontline Assembly, Front 242. The new bands: Imperative Reaction, God Module, really good American bands. From Germany, Feindflug.

Y: There’s so many.

TG: I went to your website and noticed that you that you have some songs that people are able to listen to, and you have a page on mp3.com but there’s nothing available for download there. How do you guys feel about free music online?

Y: Audiogalaxy, they do have our stuff. I think the mp3 is huge. It’s strange, because it’s promotion, but it hurts the bands too. Metropolis records actually has said it’s hurt sales for all their bands. It has effected their bands, not a huge amount, but enough that it has made them worried. I wish people would understand that’s it ok to download stuff here and there, especially if it’s a rare mix, something you can’t get. Like obviously Overdosing’s not out right now so if you can’t get it, download it, that’s fine. But the thing is that if it’s a cd, maybe the new ones, try go out and buy it once in a while. Don’t always buy the typical big bands, and just download the smaller bands. It’s going to destroy the scene and the musicians are going to stop making music. We’ve heard of a couple through Metropolis that are really in trouble. Their sales went right down. Luckily not ours, but some other people have gone down and they might be dropped because of this. If people would just try to support the scene, and at least buy a couple cd’s. I know they’re quite expensive, but it really would help.

M: It should just be a tool to listen to the songs, to discover bands, to listen if you like the band. But after you should purchase the album. Not just download the song. You are killing that band. The moment you download the song and burn it on cd you kill the band.

Y: There’s a thing that’s incredible, that a lot of people will say that I only like one song off the album so I’ll just download that one. You can’t expect a band to make one album full of fantastic hits, it’s impossible. Each song on that album is from that artist, and it is an artist piece, and it’s going to be different, each one. So if you like the band, even for that one song, you should buy it. It will in the end effect the artists. Even though we’re not in it for the money, it’s just that you can’t expect people to not beable to make at least enough to buy the equipment.

M: That’s also for DJ’s. I notice a few DJ’s in Toronto, basically they have all the CD’s burned. They don’t have one boxed CD and that’s so bad. That means no supporting anything, no supporting the music you believe in. I wish more people would listen to the song and if you like it, you go out and you buy it.

TG: So where in Toronto can we buy your merchandise?

M: HMV, all the record stores, Penguin. For t-shirts there’s Siren.

Y: Also Northbound Leather. And they can also get it through us. If anybody really needs anything, they can also email us and we’ll get it to them, no problem.

TG: Are you working on a new album right now?

M: We are halfway through the new album. At the same time, right now we are getting ready for the show. The new album will be with remixes. Right now we are talking with some bands we might have: And One, Noise Sex, doing some remixes for us. We like to have very different kind of bands: And One because it’s a really fun and popular band. And Noise Sex because they are very good musicians for noise music. They are two very different bands that we like and I think it will help us.

Y: In Evolution, the remixes we had done for us, everybody did such different jobs and we really liked every single one. Every single remix that people did we liked. Each person is a gas-fused version. Relic was completely different from Din Five’s version. It was just amazing, so different.

TG: How long does it typically take you to come up with a new album?

Y: Could be anywhere from 6 months to a year. It’s always a work in progress. When we were working on Biovital we already had a song that didn’t make it into Biovital but actually got into Evolution. There are always little remanents of songs floating around. Actually this is something that a lot of people don’t know: on the European version of Mechanical Horizon there is a song called Body Haunter, it’s actually a redone version from our very first demo tape, which we redid in 1996 and we were going to put in on Overdosing but we didn’t feel like putting it on. So we kept it and came across it and said this is really good, let’s put it on, it’s a really fast EBM song. We threw it on there, but it’s only on the European version.

M: It’s about a year period of time to put out an album. Normally we will have a lot of songs ready, after we pick the one we like the most. It’s a lot of work.

Y: Sometimes after you get a song, you say I don’t think that’s good enough at the time. You keep it but you might not put it out right away.

M: 6-8 month period of timeof writing songs. 2-4 months for mastering the songs and actually getting a final product ready to burned on an album.

TG: It was great talking to you, looking forward to the show on Thursday.




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